at my place of business which i own, i have discovered that the local jw's have taken to dropping in magazines, brocheres etc.
the staff accept them just to be polite but arn't interested.
but you know the deluded jw's... my business has quickly turned into someones magazine route!.
Just say the word and it'll go away. I used to drop off literature at some places of business where the public would frequent, and once was asked by the attendant not to do it any longer, and that was it. No more.
Just say the word. These days the Organization is not so much into shoving down the throat if people present an objection. Very relaxed these last days. I really enjoy it that way.
DY
hi all, i left the wts in the late `80s, i`ve not really given them a thought, until one sleepless night recently i was trawling the `tinterweb, and came across various videos on youtube.
anyway`s, the reasons i left were many and varied, and one day i`ll sit down and relate them, but two things have always stuck in my mind, once i was asked "if someone could convince you that without a doubt "the truth" was wrong, would you believe them?
", to which i answered "of course i would", - that was me marked.
As an Organization, yes, they discourage any donations other than to themselves. However, at a personal level, there are many JWs that do donate to different charities. So, it's not fair at all to generalize. I contribute whenever asked to cancer-related charities.
DY
i left off on my first posts on this topic with this sentence: one of the big discoveries and the genesis of my semi-apostate ways came one day when i decided to look up some of the books cited in the reasoning from the scriptures book (almost 99% of the works cited by the society were available at the universitys library).
the research that was meant to solidify my faith in the jw religion, actually made the first crack on the foundation of my faith.. .
cont..... .
I sincerely hope you'll do well in your post-JW life. May you find spiritual fulfillment elsewhere. Sincerely.
DY
imagine being a teenage superstar....and a jehovah's witness???
poor guy must have suffered a worst mind f#ck then any of us.
teenage girls worshiped him, but i doubt he ever had one.
That's one of the most ridiculous statements ever posted. In fact, if he would've followed the JW lifestyle, he would've been very much alive and well. Wouldn't have had to endure the horrible drug-infested lifestyle he carved for himself. For somebody with so much fame and money, he lived absolutely horribly!!!
MJ sure fulfilled the Biblical quote that reads: "The love of money is a root of all sorts of injurious things, and by reaching out for this love some have been led astray from the faith and have stabbed themselves all over with many pains." (1 Timothy 6:10)"
What a sad life he lead that poor fellow .
DY
looking back there were quite a few families that did the "oh we're moving" fade.
they would move to a rural area.
or a state or two away.
That's the way I'd do it. Just move away. I can only dream of it for now.
DY
just saw the newsflash on cnn (10:30 est wed 30 dec 2009).
seems he had serious chest pains while playing golf in hawaii and was rushed to the hospital.
not sure where the "serious condition" part came from but that's what was reported.. even those of us who disagree with most of what he says wish him no harm and a speedy recovery.. however, when you are that full of shit, it takes a toll on your body.. rub a dub.
His hate-filled heart has had enough! Perhaps this little warning will help him change, and mellow out a bit.
DY
long-time occasional lurker, first-time poster.
cliffs notes version: i'm thinking of da'ing in order to shake my family up a bit, even though i haven't been involved with jws in more than 10 years.
longer version: i was raised as a jw but never got baptized.
Congratulations on your successful fade.
Now, please, do yourself a huge favor and move along positively with your life. Don't marinate on the JW thing another minute.
Perhaps you shouldn't even lurk in here; this place is crawling with folk that have nothing better to do than ponder the whole JW thing instead of moving on and creating a good life for themselves.
Be happy with life and yourself.
DY
when you people were witnesses, was there one thing (or many) that really told you non-jw's were not that bad people after all?
was there anything other people did to you that got you thinking or, better yet, feeling that you hadn't been told the truth about us?.
thank you for your answers..
Most people are basically good. Unless you're dealing with a 'hasidic JW', as I call the real fanatic ones, most JWs will be quite polite and civil with non-JWs.
There's quite a large number of us inside the Organization that realize non-JWs are just as good people as JWs can be; actually, it's a fact that many non-JWs are more decent that some real scumb bags that hide behind the JW Organization; but those people are the JW exception, not the rule.
Best of things to you all for the year 2010!!!
DY
hi folks,.
i have a real serious question that i hope you will be able to help me with.. in the 4-1-1986 watchtower, pages 30-31 it talks about "approved association".
what i'm seeking your opinion about is this: if a baptized jw is deemed to not be an 'approved associate' at some point (due to his having developed a divergent view regarding one or more of the watchtower's unique teachings) does his 'not being an approved associate' mean that the watchtower society no longer considers him to be a jw?
The Organization has changed, evolved, modernized (whatever you want to call it), leaps and bounds since 1986. Get your info from an article more like in the last 1 to 3 years.
Any question, inquiry or comment that results of information from so long ago is a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. Need to update!
DY
my 76 year old mother and her 94 year old mother (my grandmother) are still regular pioneering.
if anyone should understand helping the less fortunate it should be these life time pioneers.
however, this is a conversation i had with my them yesterday.... me: mom, the girls (my 2 teenage daughters) and i have volunteered to serve breakfast and lunch at the soup kitchen new year's eve.
I'm sure you understand they don't feel they're wasting their time anymore than you think you're not waisting yours.
Two different schools of thought; they feel they're teaching people how to fish, and you prefer to just hand out the fish to people. Both acts produce some good, so more power to you both in your 'good' deeds.
They shouldn't have called your actions 'stupid', though. I sure don't agree with that. By that expression, they sure didn't put into practice what the Bible teaches about refraining the tongue.
I've caught some JW relatives talking down to non-JW relatives about their charity work, and I have to remind the JWs that we must treat all with respect, even if we have more liberties with them as they're family.
DY
